Several years ago, I spent 2 days in a windowless Los Angeles hotel meeting room. I was working with a senior leadership team during their all-day meetings. Fortunately, the location was not anywhere that you would care about having a window view.
At the end of the second day, the CEO pulled me aside and said, “OK, you work with a lot of teams. I want your take on my team. Specifically, are they as immature as I believe they are?”
Hmm… Careful with this one, Coach.
I did not want to respond with a simple “Yes” or “No.” To do so would mean that the client and I were assuming the same definition of an “immature” team. Same word, different definitions… a bad foundation for coaching.
This scenario did bring forth a point that I have since pondered: What makes for a mature or immature team?
The easy answer would be to throw the “kitchen sink” of solutions, like the 270 Habits of Efficient and Effective Teams or How to Mature your Team in 3 Days.
Instead, I went with Eleanor Roosevelt. I think her explanation of people and communication most simply and eloquently defines the difference between a mature and an immature leader, and a mature and an immature team.
Here is what she says:
“Large minds discuss ideas.
Average minds discuss events.
Small minds discuss people.”
If, as a leader, you allow your team to spend a disproportionate amount of time talking about people or events, your team lacks maturity. The more that a team discusses events and people while excluding ideas, the greater the immaturity.
If you lead a team or work group that meets at least once a week, here’s a very revealing exercise I want to challenge you to try for the next two to four weeks.
Create a simple Excel spreadsheet. Along the top, enter the 3 categories: “Ideas, Events, People.” Down the side, list the names of your team members. Bring this spreadsheet to your next meeting, and as the discussion progresses, record how many times each person talks in these three zones.
By changing the way you view these discussions, you may very well learn some things about your leadership and your team members. This is one of several tools I use when I am working with a leader and her team who are really open to learning and developing.
Mature teams will spend a lot of time talking about ideas, and less on events or people.
What else do I consistently observe about immature leaders and immature teams?
1. Everyone seems to be an expert on “trivia” – who did what when – but little time is spent discussing important ideas. Immature teams feel more comfortable discussing trivia because there is less at stake.
2. Immature leaders prefer when there is only ONE right answer because it alleviates the risk of making a mistake (especially in front of the very people who report to them).
3. Immature leaders and teams don’t change. They stay in their comfort zone. (As a leader, where are you most comfortable…..people, events or ideas?) Instead, they live by Admiral David Farragut’s edict, “Damn the torpedoes, Full speed ahead!”
4. The “experts” in the group (either self-appointed or through position) tend to be the greatest limiters of discussion. Not surprisingly, experts have the most to say when people are the subject of discussion, and less so with events and ideas.
5. Individuals on immature teams accept little responsibility for mistakes resulting from their own advice, and yet gladly accept full responsibility for any successes that have resulted from their own advice.
Here is my challenge to you: Even for just 2 meetings, use the simple tool as I’ve outlined above. You’ll gain a while new perspective on your team and yourself.
What do you observe about the maturity vs. immaturity of your team? If your team did come out as “immature,” what would you do to mature your team? As a leader, where do you most comfortably reside…..large, average or small?
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Great points as I experienced my first 2-day annual meeting with a company this past week. Would have been good to have this handy. It could have said alot!
JG
Really good stuff Raymond. I am going to try your spreadsheet suggestion at my next leadership team meeting at work and at our next Chamber of Commerce Board meeting.